eXo/Flynn Top 300 DOS Pack Updates (Updated to 2.0.2 MyMenu) and Support

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I know its a bit much, but do you think you can add Xenon 1 & 2 to the next build?
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Question by a stupid man: this setup work on a real CRT 31khz monitor with the HDMI->VGA Directvideo trick?
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Yes it should video output options is in the AO486 and misters main cores and have nothing do with roms/harddrives/etc.
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grizzly wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:57 pm Yes it should video output options is in the AO486 and misters main cores and have nothing do with roms/harddrives/etc.
Thank you, I'll try.

I was recently burned by the purchase of a Windows 10 mini pc because the Intel HD integrated gpu scale every resolution to the monitor's: great for modern fixed resolution displays, but awful for CRT monitors.
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As far as I've experimented, it looks like direct video is stuck on something a little higher than 640x480 with the scandoubler turned on. I don't believe this core has "genuine" analog output timings at all, in the sense that it does not reflect the emulated hardware. You're better off using the scaler to pick a useful resolution, like 1440x400 scales cleanly for 720x400 DOS text and 320x200 VGA games. Of course those settings are bad if you want to use windows and such. But yeah this kind of gets back to your Intel HD comment, this core likewise does not seem to allow programs to change the actual output resolution (although it can change refresh with vsync_adjust=1 or 2)
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Beaps wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:03 pm I know its a bit much, but do you think you can add Xenon 1 & 2 to the next build?
I'll add it to my list.
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FoxbatStargazer wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:31 pm As far as I've experimented, it looks like direct video is stuck on something a little higher than 640x480 with the scandoubler turned on. I don't believe this core has "genuine" analog output timings at all, in the sense that it does not reflect the emulated hardware. You're better off using the scaler to pick a useful resolution, like 1440x400 scales cleanly for 720x400 DOS text and 320x200 VGA games. Of course those settings are bad if you want to use windows and such. But yeah this kind of gets back to your Intel HD comment, this core likewise does not seem to allow programs to change the actual output resolution (although it can change refresh with vsync_adjust=1 or 2)
Yeah, I get this strange artefacts in DOS, and maaaaybe in games (it's a little more difficult to discern, but you can see it in the balloons).
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Jegriva wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:28 pm I was recently burned by the purchase of a Windows 10 mini pc because the Intel HD integrated gpu scale every resolution to the monitor's: great for modern fixed resolution displays, but awful for CRT monitors.
Interesting. I have the exact opposite experience.

I use the ExoDOS collection with exactly such a mini PC. The Win10 Intel GPU setup utility allows you to configure your own video modes. I created a 640x400@72Hz resolution and use this for Dosbox fullscreen. In the ExoDOS install scripts I select run in fullscreen and not to fiddle with the aspect ratio and the normal2x filter. One has to manually add that fullscreen resolution to dosbox.conf for each game, but that is a small price to pay.

I noticed that Win10 would not switch properly to that resolution if I run it in 1024x768 for whatever reason. So I made a 1280x800 mode as well, and this is fine to scroll through launchbox. Alt-Enter then works as expected and switches to 640x400. Looks really nice on a crt (even if my phone cannot take a good picture of it - there are the fine scanlines you would expect in this mode )
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Jegriva wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:08 pm
FoxbatStargazer wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:31 pm As far as I've experimented, it looks like direct video is stuck on something a little higher than 640x480 with the scandoubler turned on. I don't believe this core has "genuine" analog output timings at all, in the sense that it does not reflect the emulated hardware. You're better off using the scaler to pick a useful resolution, like 1440x400 scales cleanly for 720x400 DOS text and 320x200 VGA games. Of course those settings are bad if you want to use windows and such. But yeah this kind of gets back to your Intel HD comment, this core likewise does not seem to allow programs to change the actual output resolution (although it can change refresh with vsync_adjust=1 or 2)
Yeah, I get this strange artefacts in DOS, and maaaaybe in games (it's a little more difficult to discern, but you can see it in the balloons).
What video filter do you have turned on? You need something besides off for it to look decent. Either Freddo's settings:
video_mode=1280,80,136,216,960,1,3,30,102100
vscale=1 (integer)
core OSD Low res mode: 4x
core OSD Aspect Ratio: Full Screen, Bear with me!
then use the monitors OSD to correct the AR and fill the screen (it'll be a bit wide)
oh and video filter should be Misc\Horizontal Only\Guassian 6

or one of these:

[ao486]
;use with external filter "interpolation sharp" for readable text
vsync_adjust=0
vscale_mode=1
vga_scaler=1
forced_scandoubler=0
;video_mode=640,24,96,40,400,9,2,39,25175; 640x400 (Good for 320x200 games)
;video_mode=640,16,64,80,400,1,3,14,25080 ;75Hz version
custom_aspect_ratio_1=16:10 ;for proper scaling to the 640x400 resolution, "fullscreen" also works
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flynnsbit wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:53 pm
Jegriva wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:08 pm
FoxbatStargazer wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:31 pm As far as I've experimented, it looks like direct video is stuck on something a little higher than 640x480 with the scandoubler turned on. I don't believe this core has "genuine" analog output timings at all, in the sense that it does not reflect the emulated hardware. You're better off using the scaler to pick a useful resolution, like 1440x400 scales cleanly for 720x400 DOS text and 320x200 VGA games. Of course those settings are bad if you want to use windows and such. But yeah this kind of gets back to your Intel HD comment, this core likewise does not seem to allow programs to change the actual output resolution (although it can change refresh with vsync_adjust=1 or 2)
Yeah, I get this strange artefacts in DOS, and maaaaybe in games (it's a little more difficult to discern, but you can see it in the balloons).
What video filter do you have turned on? You need something besides off for it to look decent. Either Freddo's settings:
video_mode=1280,80,136,216,960,1,3,30,102100
vscale=1 (integer)
core OSD Low res mode: 4x
core OSD Aspect Ratio: Full Screen, Bear with me!
then use the monitors OSD to correct the AR and fill the screen (it'll be a bit wide)
oh and video filter should be Misc\Horizontal Only\Guassian 6

or one of these:

[ao486]
;use with external filter "interpolation sharp" for readable text
vsync_adjust=0
vscale_mode=1
vga_scaler=1
forced_scandoubler=0
;video_mode=640,24,96,40,400,9,2,39,25175; 640x400 (Good for 320x200 games)
;video_mode=640,16,64,80,400,1,3,14,25080 ;75Hz version
custom_aspect_ratio_1=16:10 ;for proper scaling to the 640x400 resolution, "fullscreen" also works
No filters, I play 99.9% of the time via analog I/O on my consumer tv, so I just use the 15khz signal. Thanks for rhe suggestions, I will try.
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I run the update.sh for the top 300 pack but I am not using that image im using eXoFlynn pack and doesnt update, I get an error.

Any ideas
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is the pack for all games supported so far on archive org?

I can't find it there.
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Beaps wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:06 am I run the update.sh for the top 300 pack but I am not using that image im using eXoFlynn pack and doesnt update, I get an error.

Any ideas
It was broken with the latest Linux update but is now fixed. Run the Mister update script and then try the ao486 updater again.
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pbsk8 wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:37 pm is the pack for all games supported so far on archive org?

I can't find it there.
maybe search for the name of the core? Not sure...
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Hey Flynnsbit!

Thank you for making this project possible and for all your work. It's a huge help for my little thing I'm trying to do, which is to get the eXoDOS collection onto a physical HDD and configure/play the games on custom-built original hardware.

Everything has been going...good...? I have the system set up with FreeDOS, using a SATA PCI card and all 1TB is recognized, everything boots up, etc., and none of that was easy but that's finally where I'm at.

So I've got the HDD hooked up to my modern PC as an external USB drive and I'm following your instructions from another thread where I run exodosconversion.ps1 (which is my first experience running PS scripts so I know I must not be doing it correctly). Anyway, I change the directory paths in the script to point to my source, working drive and final destination and I get this:

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Obviously I have no idea what most of that means, but I see the script is running so I leave it alone. I let it run for about a day and a half straight and I woke up to it having stopped randomly at about 3500 of the archives.

I'm doing something wrong and I imagine it's silly and stupid and easy to remedy, but what I'm doing is:

1. Edit the script to point to all the appropriate directories:

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$workingdir = "E:\WorkingDIR" #empty folder for processing zips (extracts and rezips)
$newdir = "F:\GAMES" #empty folder where all processed zips will be stored
$filedir = "G:\Games\DOS\eXoDOS\eXoDOS\Games" #folder with current zip files, script does not change these files and will leave originals alone
 
$items = Get-ChildItem -Path $filedir
 
#Creates copy of all zips but moves files from the single folder to root
foreach($item in $items)
{
    Expand-Archive -Path $item.FullName -DestinationPath $workingdir
    $folder = Get-ChildItem $workingdir
    Compress-Archive -Path "$($folder.FullName)\*" -DestinationPath "$newdir\$($item.name)" -Update
    Remove-Item "$workingdir\*" -Recurse -Force
}
2. Right-click the .PS1 file and choose to run it.

And that's it. It just goes. Lots of information in red, which experience has told me is not good, and then it kind of just fizzles out after a few days.

Is there anything you can deduce from this to point me in the right direction to getting these games converted?

Edit: Oh, I also wanted to mention that I have 7001 items in that directory, and one of them is a folder called !dos which the script seems to be trying to manipulate but cannot.
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Thanks for all the hard work on this. HAs anybody managed to get Star Trek 25th Anniversary working. I watched Flynn's video and he seemed to be able to get it to boot and play using Emm386. If I use Hiram it just dumps me back at the launcher.
If I use Emm386 it hangs on a black screen. Sometimes with a blinking cursor, but last time with nothing.

I tried again in HIRAM and when it dumped me back looked at the last console message which was along the lines of....

ST 25th Anniversary Enhanced CD requires 560k of free low memory and 1024l of free EMS to play. You currently have 624k free low memory and 0k free EMS memory...blah blah..

Any ideas guys?
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Hi

Thanks so much for all your hard work, hugely enjoying the collection and fruits of your labour :)

300 games is too many for my needs or present usb space. I'd like to whittle that list down.

When I'd (previous to your great work) used exodosconverter and TDL, it indexed my collection on boot, I'm hoping thats still possible.

so 2 q's please!

1. How can I best remove games from the cd folder and update TDL's index?

2. I cant seem open the VHD in windows 10 btw (opening the vhd fails with an error) so assume I'd need to make any changes on the mister itself?

TIA
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@flynnsbit ,
don't know if anybody posted this question in the past, but it seems to work, when converting all DOS CD Games to chd, so we can save a lot of space.
I tried it with indy4 and it works.
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RascalUK wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:27 pm Thanks for all the hard work on this. HAs anybody managed to get Star Trek 25th Anniversary working. I watched Flynn's video and he seemed to be able to get it to boot and play using Emm386. If I use Hiram it just dumps me back at the launcher.
If I use Emm386 it hangs on a black screen. Sometimes with a blinking cursor, but last time with nothing.
Just following my own post up here. I had a 32MB ram module in at the time, have upgraded to 128MB today and it works fine now.
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I have a problem and cant seem to get any games to work after I run the "AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.sh", they seem to run just fine on a fresh install but after I run the update script I always get "Secondary VHD not mounted!" and "Please mount a games VHD to the "Mount Secondary HDD *.VHD" on your MiSTer and reset."

I have the eXoFlynn Top 300 DOS Pack installed on a "SanDisk 400GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card", and before that I had used "Mr Fusion Installation" to start the install for the MiSTer FPGA SD card, here is what my AO486 directory looks like:

games/AO486/cd
games/AO486/floppy
games/AO486/boot0.rom
games/AO486/boot1.rom
games/AO486/IDE 0-0 BOOT-DOS98.vhd
games/AO486/IDE 0-1 Top 300 DOS Games.vhd

I have IDE 0-0 set to "IDE 0-0 BOOT-DOS98.vhd" and IDE 0-1 set to "IDE 0-1 Top 300 DOS Games.vhd" and in the AO486 menu it looks like this:

IDE 0-0 IDE 0-0 BOOT-DOS98
IDE 0-1 IDE 0-1 Top 300 DOS

It boots to the memory manager selection, that I have to use a keyboard to select an option, and then to the "MiSTerr AO486 Launcher" and I can use the game pad to select a game at that point, but no matter what game I select it always goes to the DOS prompt, and gives me the "Secondary VHD not mounted!" warning,

Am I doing something wrong?
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WILL1384 wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:18 pm I have a problem and cant seem to get any games to work after I run the "AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.sh", they seem to run just fine on a fresh install but after I run the update script I always get "Secondary VHD not mounted!" and "Please mount a games VHD to the "Mount Secondary HDD *.VHD" on your MiSTer and reset."

I have the eXoFlynn Top 300 DOS Pack installed on a "SanDisk 400GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card", and before that I had used "Mr Fusion Installation" to start the install for the MiSTer FPGA SD card, here is what my AO486 directory looks like:

games/AO486/cd
games/AO486/floppy
games/AO486/boot0.rom
games/AO486/boot1.rom
games/AO486/IDE 0-0 BOOT-DOS98.vhd
games/AO486/IDE 0-1 Top 300 DOS Games.vhd

I have IDE 0-0 set to "IDE 0-0 BOOT-DOS98.vhd" and IDE 0-1 set to "IDE 0-1 Top 300 DOS Games.vhd" and in the AO486 menu it looks like this:

IDE 0-0 IDE 0-0 BOOT-DOS98
IDE 0-1 IDE 0-1 Top 300 DOS

It boots to the memory manager selection, that I have to use a keyboard to select an option, and then to the "MiSTerr AO486 Launcher" and I can use the game pad to select a game at that point, but no matter what game I select it always goes to the DOS prompt, and gives me the "Secondary VHD not mounted!" warning,

Am I doing something wrong?
Have you set your base path correctly in your AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.ini ?
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BigMac2 wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:07 pm Have you set your base path correctly in your AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.ini ?
I left it alone thinking that because I am only using a single SD card in the DE10-Nano slot and no other drives of any kind that it would be just fine like it was, also the update script does seem to find and update the files and does not seem to give any errors, it' was set to "BASE_PATH=/media/fat", so I changed it to "BASE_PATH=/media/fat/games/AO486" and tried running the "AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.sh" again, but this time it said "Couldn't find disk image in "/media/fat/games/AO486/games/AO486"", so next I tried "BASE_PATH=/media/fat/games" and tried the AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.sh" again, this time the update worked, and then I tried some games but unfortunately it still shows "Secondary VHD not mounted!" and "Please mount a games VHD to the "Mount Secondary HDD *.VHD" on your MiSTer and reset.".
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I just want to say many thanks to flynnsbit for all the work on this.

Had a great evening playing this.

If possible ( assuming that games can be officially added ), could I ask for Armor Alley (1991) and Dungeon Hack (1993) to be added if there is an exisiting list of future games ?

Again - many thanks for this - so many forgotten but now remembered games. :)
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Reg wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:15 pm I just want to say many thanks to flynnsbit for all the work on this.

Had a great evening playing this.

If possible ( assuming that games can be officially added ), could I ask for Armor Alley (1991) and Dungeon Hack (1993) to be added if there is an exisiting list of future games ?

Again - many thanks for this - so many forgotten but now remembered games. :)
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I also want to thanks Flynnbit for his packs and videos on how to setup the Mister AO486 core with dos extender tweaks, your videos are invaluable.

I've got a suggestion for another working games from the Exodus collection to include in the next pack; Castle of Dr Brain (1991), it's a colourful puzzle logics game for all ages and the soundtrack is a good show-off of the CM32L capability if you've got a MT32-Pi.
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OK here is were I am at now, I went to a lot of trouble testing the SD card yesterday, and all of the tests finished without errors, I tested the "MiSTer AO486 Top 300 DOS Games Pack" archives that I downloaded, all they tested just fine, I reformatted everything and started from scratch, and I still have the problem, here are the steps I took:

I decided to extract the files from the "MiSTer AO486 Top 300 DOS Games Pack" to the SD card and try again but then I ran into problems extracting the files from the "MiSTer AO486 Top 300 DOS Games Pack" to the MiSTer SD card under Linux, so then I tested the archive, and the archive tested good, I then tested the downloaded archive with "Archive Manager" under Linux and with the Torrent client I downloaded the archive with, and found no problems.

Next I tested the SD card on my Windows based PC using "Error Checking" under the drives properties in "File Explorer", and Windows said it found a problem and could not fix it, unfortunately it gave no details on what was wrong, so then I took the SD card back over to my Linux desktop and deleted all it's partitions using "GParted" and put the card back into my Windows based PC to format it to exFAT with "Default allocation size" and un-check the "Preform a quick format" box so the SD card would get a long format, and the format took around 2 hours and finished with out problems.

I then tested with the program "FAKEFLASHTEST" and that test passed, I then used the Windows based PC to format it to exFAT again with "Default allocation size" and again used the long format, that took another few hours and finished without errors, I then ran the program "H2testw", that took just over 4 hours, and the test finished without errors.

I then used "Win32 Disk Imager" to write the "mr-fusion-v2.2.img" onto the SD card, and then booted the MiSTer FPGA with the SD card, after it finished setting up the SD card I ran the "update" script, I then extracted the files from the eXoFlynn Top 300 DOS Pack to the "/games/AO486/" folder on the SD card, this time I used the "ARK" program under Linux to extract the files, I noticed that "ARK" looked finished extracting the files because the pop up window it makes when it extracts files disappeared, unfortunately when I tried to eject the SD Linux warned me not to remove the SD card because it was still in use and it allowed me to cancel the ejection of the SD card, so I left the SD card plugged into the computer until morning to let it finish extracting the files.

The next morning I ejected the SD card from the computer then placed the SD card into the MiSTer FPGA and booted it, I then tested "MiSTer AO486 Top 300 DOS Games Pack" and it worked, I then went to:

https://github.com/flynnsbit/Top300_updates

and downloaded "AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.sh" and "AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.ini" to the "Scripts" folder, I changed the contents of "AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.ini" to "BASE_PATH=/media/fat/games" and then ran "AO486_Update_Top300_Pack.sh", the update finished without problems, and then I tested "MiSTer AO486 Top 300 DOS Games Pack" and it seems to work now, but unfortunately after I shutdown the MiSTer FPGA and restarted it I started getting "Secondary VHD not mounted!" and "Please mount a games VHD to the "Mount Secondary HDD *.VHD" on your MiSTer and reset.".
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And now you can't mount the two VHDs to IDE 0-0 and IDE 0-1? Can you run a dir on E:\. What happens if you type TDL and hit enter on E:\
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flynnsbit wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pm And now you can't mount the two VHDs to IDE 0-0 and IDE 0-1? Can you run a dir on E:\. What happens if you type TDL and hit enter on E:\
AO486 always starts with the "MiSTer A0486 Startup Menu" I then hit enter on the keyboard, it then takes me to the "MiSTerr AO486 Launcher" then when I try a game is when it goes to a blank screen with text showing "Secondary VHD not mounted!" and "Please mount a games VHD to the "Mount Secondary HDD *.VHD" on your MiSTer and reset.".

BTW I just tried it, and now it's working again, what would cause it to work on one boot and fail on another, and then go back to working?

Has a test I changed the "Joystick Type" to 4 button and then saved the settings and and did a "Reset and apply HDD" when I did that it went back to showing "Secondary VHD not mounted!" and "Please mount a games VHD to the "Mount Secondary HDD *.VHD" on your MiSTer and reset." when I tried to play a game, but after a shutdown and restart of the MiSTer FPGA it went back to working again.

Hopefully it keep going back to a working state after a restart of the MiSTer FPGA, before it would stay in a non-working state.
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Re: eXoFlynn Top 300 DOS Pack Updates and Support

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flynnsbit wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pm And now you can't mount the two VHDs to IDE 0-0 and IDE 0-1? Can you run a dir on E:\. What happens if you type TDL and hit enter on E:\
I got it to mess up again has a test by changing the joystick settings, were goes to a blank screen with text showing "Secondary VHD not mounted!" and "Please mount a games VHD to the "Mount Secondary HDD *.VHD" on your MiSTer and reset." when I try an run a game, and tried DIR at the DOS prompt, and that worked, I then ran TDL and that worked, it took me back to the "MiSTerr AO486 Launcher", and then when I tried a game it worked, yep that's strange.
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Re: eXoFlynn Top 300 DOS Pack Updates and Support

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There IS a joystick button that will exit the launcher. You might be a perfect candidate for the AO486 Launcher to be set to Kiosk mode which will prevent dropping to dos from the menu. Try it and see if you like it.

drop to dos
e:
cd\
edit tdl.ini
find this line: userlevel=regular
change to: userlevel=kiosk
file - Save
File - Exit
reboot

If you don't like it, select "Clean" on the startup menu, and revert the same way.
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