Community sourced game list for AO486 Top 500

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Yes, having genres and a separate pack is more work for flynn; and I only suggested it as a way to save space. Another cut that could be made (perhaps less likely to generate requests for subpacks) would be to separate games into an XT/AT era and the rest. It roughly cuts the timeline in the middle with early text/CGA/EGA one one side compared to VGA/SVGA and mouse on the other.

Assuming we keep one pack, then I'd suggest to trim game series to keep only the 2-3 best entries in the series (or the most accessible). The key point here would be to make the pack as varied as possible, instead of trying to make it a complete compendium.

For example, while I love the King's Quest series, KQ5 is enough to be representative of the DOS VGA era; and KQ1 as the game that started it all. Since there is an official remake, we could keep only KQ5 and KQ1 VGA. It would sacrifice historical accuracy but both could be picked up by total newcomers more easily than the original KQ1.

I know this is highly subjective and there is no one good way of doing it. I'm also fine with the current list; the above is just an idea to save space.
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I am convinced there no single good way to actually Enjoy the entire DOS library in one system.
You always lose compatibility with something.

I see it more with actual hardware, but I at times see issues even with DOS BOX, and you can configure Dos box per game.
It is my great regret that we live in an age that is proud of machines that think and suspicious of people who try to.
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LamerDeluxe wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:18 pm I wouldn't want games to be removed because there are superior versions on other platforms. Quite often those inferior ports are the ones people used to play and have nostalgia for.
I would understand this argument if somehow games were no longer supported by a particular core, but for personal nostalgia, one is always free to add whatever games they like manually.

This is called "Top 500" and I fail to see how any Street Fighter 2 game represents the best of what DOS gaming has to offer.

I do see what you're saying though, MiSTer as a whole is a massive treasure box of nostalgia, but the line should be drawn somewhere when it comes to these packs, otherwise what's the point of curating at all and not just go the whole hog and include all 7,200 games from the eXoDOS collection? Someone, somewhere is almost guaranteed to have some fond memories of every single one of those games.
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chanunnaki wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:16 pm
LamerDeluxe wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:18 pm I wouldn't want games to be removed because there are superior versions on other platforms. Quite often those inferior ports are the ones people used to play and have nostalgia for.
I would understand this argument if somehow games were no longer supported by a particular core, but for personal nostalgia, one is always free to add whatever games they like manually.

This is called "Top 500" and I fail to see how any Street Fighter 2 game represents the best of what DOS gaming has to offer.

I do see what you're saying though, MiSTer as a whole is a massive treasure box of nostalgia, but the line should be drawn somewhere when it comes to these packs, otherwise what's the point of curating at all and not just go the whole hog and include all 7,200 games from the eXoDOS collection? Someone, somewhere is almost guaranteed to have some fond memories of every single one of those games.
Good points, you could add your own with a bit more hassle. Creating a Top 500 for people unfamiliar with a platform is also a bit different from creating one for people who are. Maybe two variations should exist.

In the second case, if an inferior port is loved by a lot of people, it should still end up in the top 500 though it could also be one of the best games for it. (for instance, some of the best VIC-20 games are arcade ports, obviously inferior to the original).
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Not sure if it is too late, but added a few more:

Thexder
Thexder 2 (Fire Hawk: Thexder – The Second Contact)
Battle Chess II: Chinese Chess
Battle Chess 4000
Master of Orion
Test Drive III: The Passion
Rogue
Lode Runner
Pinball Construction Set
BattleTech: The Crescent Hawk's Revenge
Codename: ICEMAN
Companions of Xanth
The Hunt for the Red October
SimAnt


But, also want to +1 for some of the ones on the list that I actively miss since I played them back in the day:

The Bard's Tale I,II,III
Alley Cat (1984)
Betrayal at Krondor
Battle Chess (1988)
Civilization
Fallout (1997)
Fallout 2
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The
Pirates! Gold
Police Quest 4
Zork I - The Great Underground Empire (1980)
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Did we reached 500 or how long does it take and the 500 list will be real...
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We reached 840 or so. So there is some work to do to knock that down. I see a LOT of games that are not 486 era or older, or are windows so that part will be easy. I have plenty to work with to get 500 working games.

I put a lot of work into the shareware image this weekend so that is getting closer. Once complete, I will start this. You will know when that happens as I am going to stream most of it so I have reference material later.
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Looking forward to it.
Have fun and thousend and one thanks to you :-)
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Is this project still being worked on, or did it get shelved in favor of the new shareware-focused vhd pack?

Curious if/where I can follow along
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This will be after T300 gets updated with MyMenu. I realize people wait on me for these things, and that is fine, but you could make this now by pulling the directories directly out of eXoDOS into a large VHD and just copy MyMenu onto it. you would still have to create the autorun.bat file for each game or script that. The exoDOSConverter needs to be updated to handle MyMenu. Life has for sure gotten in the way of this, but I am more engaged now.

https://github.com/flynnsbit/MyMenu
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flynnsbit wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:28 am This will be after T300 gets updated with MyMenu. I realize people wait on me for these things, and that is fine, but you could make this now by pulling the directories directly out of eXoDOS into a large VHD and just copy MyMenu onto it. you would still have to create the autorun.bat file for each game or script that. The exoDOSConverter needs to be updated to handle MyMenu. Life has for sure gotten in the way of this, but I am more engaged now.

https://github.com/flynnsbit/MyMenu
Thanks for the update and for the link. I've starred the github repo to follow along with the progress. I'm sure I could manage to figure this out myself, but my free time is quite scarce these days so I tend to rely on the generous work of folks like you who handle all of the tedious setup and automation for us mere mortals. You're doing God's work my friend. If you have a Patreon, I'd be happy to pitch in some beer money :mrgreen:
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I would like to see all the games that don't work removed (and hopefully one day they will work and can be added in after that).

I would like to see all the original and SCI versions of the Sierra adventure games as well as all the Lucasfilm adventure games, Might and Magic games, Ultima series, the Bards Tale series and the 7th Guest. I keep trying to find the time to make my own images, and I plan to make separate hard drives for adventure games, action games (Wing Commander series, Star Wars games, driving games, pinball, Doom, Descent, etc.), and turn-based or real-time and puzzle games like the Civilization, Colonization, Master of Orion, Command & Conquer, Warcraft, Lemmings, The Incredible machine, Sim City, etc. series. Having some of the games missing like say King's Quest III but having the rest is annoying and makes me not want to play anything since it isn't complete.

Maybe a better approach for me is to just play the games one at a time and install them as needed. That way I actually spend time playing the game instead of just setting everything up. Anyway, breaking things into categories rather than a top 500 might be a good thing so each category can be all inclusive with the full series of all the best games for each category.
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thorr wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:57 am I would like to see all the games that don't work removed (and hopefully one day they will work and can be added in after that).

I would like to see all the original and SCI versions of the Sierra adventure games as well as all the Lucasfilm adventure games, Might and Magic games, Ultima series, the Bards Tale series and the 7th Guest. I keep trying to find the time to make my own images, and I plan to make separate hard drives for adventure games, action games (Wing Commander series, Star Wars games, driving games, pinball, Doom, Descent, etc.), and turn-based or real-time and puzzle games like the Civilization, Colonization, Master of Orion, Command & Conquer, Warcraft, Lemmings, The Incredible machine, Sim City, etc. series. Having some of the games missing like say King's Quest III but having the rest is annoying and makes me not want to play anything since it isn't complete.

Maybe a better approach for me is to just play the games one at a time and install them as needed. That way I actually spend time playing the game instead of just setting everything up. Anyway, breaking things into categories rather than a top 500 might be a good thing so each category can be all inclusive with the full series of all the best games for each category.
That sounds like a plan. It will be nice having someone else making these images as well. Let me know where you share it out as I would love to play some of those. Having more people making these things just helps the community more!
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Possible to add The Punisher?
It's a great 2D open world game by Paragon Software, and was released in 1990.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/946202 ... isher-1990
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Are we still adding games?

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Not sure if still on time, but I added the following:

Double Blocks (Ernest Yale - 1990)
Reunion (Grandslam -1994)
Wrath of the Demon (1991)
Kings of the Beach (1988)
Grand Prix Circuit (1987)
The Cycles (1989)
Digger (1983)
Solar Winds (1993)
Stunt Car Racer (1989)
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Hi! My wife is interested in playing Digger 1983. Do I need anything besides a rom to play this game?

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curious-beacon wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:48 am

Hi! My wife is interested in playing Digger 1983. Do I need anything besides a rom to play this game?

There are no "roms" for PCs, so it depends on what file do you have. If it's a HDD install (DC) you'd need to put it on bootable VHD with MS DOS. If it's a "PC booter" ie floppy image then you can just try and mount it as a floppy disk in core OSD.

Both ready-made vhd and booter floppy can be found in one of the collections from this thread: https://www.misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=5368

I recommend to run this game on PCXT core due to possible speed issues (or choose AT speed in ao486's OSD menu).

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