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No picture in SNES direct video mode

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:03 am
by MrX_Cuci
Digital IO board connected to a hdmi to vga converter (ag6200 chipset) 128MB RAM, USB hub board. The setup is connected to a 15Khz capable Dell U2311H TN panel monitor. (manual and specs: https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all- ... _en-us.pdf I tested several cores and they all work in direct video mode=1

According to https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_Mi ... patibility NES and SNES share the same frequency. NES works perfectly, SNES does not. OSD menu shows briefly, but disappears. (Flickering with huge intervals) No message from monitor, so it looks like it gets a signal.

What I already tried:
SD card issue, seemed plausible at first because chkdsk gave me an error on the SD card. Reformatted and used Mt. Fusion install method.
Tried the SNES core release before the newest release.
Tried different cores, like Genesis, Mega CD, NES, TGFX16, NeoGeo. Those all work.

I hope you guys can tell me what might be wrong. Any other suggestions to try are welcome.

Re: No picture in SNES direct video mode

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:53 pm
by MrX_Cuci
Update on this. Some other cores don't work either in direct_video=1 mode. The Minimig core works fine though. Everything I trow at it just plain works. Even the weirdest resolutions. If anyone has any suggestions, let me know.

Also tried a different hdmi to vga adapter (Logilink), same result. Work fine with direct_video=0

Re: No picture in SNES direct video mode

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:35 pm
by mapf
What happens in the SNES core with

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forced_scandoubler=1
?

Re: No picture in SNES direct video mode

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:22 pm
by MrX_Cuci
Thanks for getting back to me. Unfortunately not a reliable picture either with forced_scandoubler=1. At some point it output 720x480, but it's not stable. Could it be a SDRAM issue? Mine fails at the 48Mhz Jotego test. 96Mhz works fine though.

This is the basic config I use:
[MiSTer]
;VIDEO MODE
video_mode = 0
;VIDEO SETTINGS
menu_pal = 0
dvi_mode = 0
fb_terminal = 1
fb_size = 0
video_info = 5
hdmi_limited = 2
vsync_adjust = 0
;VGA SETTINGS
forced_scandoubler = 0
ypbpr = 0
composite_sync = 1
vga_scaler = 0
direct_video = 1
;VIDEO SCALING
vscale_mode = 0
vscale_border = 0
;AUDIO SETTINGS
hdmi_audio_96k = 0
volumectl = 1
;MISC SETTINGS
key_menu_as_rgui = 0
rbf_hide_datecode = 0
;bootscreen = 0
recents = 1
gamepad_defaults = 1
keyrah_mode = 0x18d80002
reset_combo = 0
osd_timeout = 30
bootcore_timeout = 10

PS Even the memtest utility does not work in direct_video=1 mode.

Re: No picture in SNES direct video mode

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 11:02 am
by GeCe
Hi!
I use this core with Directvideo and works ok (PAL and NTSC). Connected to TV CRT.

Re: No picture in SNES direct video mode

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:48 am
by FoxbatStargazer
Well this is an old thread but direct_video is meant for analog CRTs. It pushes out a crazy wide resolutions like 2800 by 240/480, stuff that would probably confuse an old scaler as you would find on an old 1080p LCD monitor. With LCD monitors you're generally better off using the scaler and trying to match the native resolution (1080p in this case.) Heck this monitor has a DVI input so you should really be using a simple passive hdmi->dvi converter for best results.

Re: No picture in SNES direct video mode

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:16 pm
by MrX_Cuci
Sorry for my late reply. I just noticed your reaction. I used this page to check out if my monitor was 15khz capable: http://15khz.wikidot.com/ HDMI mode works, what benefit would DVI have?

Re: No picture in SNES direct video mode

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:24 pm
by lordoftime79
I am now experiancing this same problem - NES and SNES core no longer display in direct video mode!