Atari 2600 Input

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Atari 2600 Input

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hi to all, yesterday I tested space invaders on 2600 core with daemonbite adapter (using original controller on a crt) vs real atari 2600 (vader/harmony cart/crt)

input on the real console was immediate and register all the time I press the button vs mister which didn´t register all my inputs.

is it normal? can I fix it with polling rate¿

I know daemonbite is no snac

thanks

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Re: Atari 2600 Input

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Are you using an adapter that specifically mentions 2600 support or just a general DB9 adapter? I have a Timville adapter that I'm pretty sure shares the same codebase as Daemonbite, and it works with my Sega Genesis and Master System controllers but doesn't work at all with any of my Atari or Commodore controllers. I think adapters have to be designed differently to work well with Atari stuff as opposed to Sega stuff

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I´m using this adapter I made myself

https://github.com/MickGyver/DaemonBite ... rollersUSB

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It's strange that that one says it works with Atari/Commodore pads. The Timville one I have also uses an Arduino with basically the same code and it doesn't work with Atari joysticks either. Did you look into this thread? Maybe it's an issue with starting the game?

If you're just looking to use a stick, another option would be the Hyperkin Trooper 2, which seems like a nice Atari style USB controller with extra buttons which could be useful for menus and stuff. I've been thinking of picking one up myself. But if you also want to use paddle controllers then SNAC seems like the way to go

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peke wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:53 pm

hi to all, yesterday I tested space invaders on 2600 core with daemonbite adapter (using original controller on a crt) vs real atari 2600 (vader/harmony cart/crt)

input on the real console was immediate and register all the time I press the button vs mister which didn´t register all my inputs.

is it normal? can I fix it with polling rate¿

I know daemonbite is no snac

thanks

What do you mean by "didn't register all my inputs"? Do you mean you press a button and nothing happens? In this case your Daemonbite adapter seems to be faulty. I use a Daemonbite adapter regulary (in fact I made this exact adapter you link too) on the MiSTer and it never fails to register an input.

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Re: Atari 2600 Input

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I made a few adapters like this (nes/snes, Neo geo) and this two sega controllers.

I allready have the original consoles and like to make comparisons (mister is awesome!!!)

in space invaders on the mister with the daemonbite DIY adapter I hit the button repeatedly and not get the equivalent action (in this case fire from the spaceship), seems to happen when there´s a lot of hit repeatedly.

I could test other games and other adapters in other cores, but knowing it´s not snac maybe is what I get, or maybe I´m missing something.

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peke wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:12 pm

I made a few adapters like this (nes/snes, Neo geo) and this two sega controllers.

I allready have the original consoles and like to make comparisons (mister is awesome!!!)

in space invaders on the mister with the daemonbite DIY adapter I hit the button repeatedly and not get the equivalent action (in this case fire from the spaceship), seems to happen when there´s a lot of hit repeatedly.

I could test other games and other adapters in other cores, but knowing it´s not snac maybe is what I get, or maybe I´m missing something.

Just gave Space Invaders a quick try with my ArcadeR joystick connected with a DaemonBite adpater to the MiSTer. I can't make a direct comparison with my VCS as it is not hooked up at the moment, but I didn't notice any missed fire inputs.

It was just a quick glance but I played VCS on the MiSTer alot and I never noticed anything unusual. Which core do you use? There is a (now abandoned) 2600 core and the 7800 core, I would always recommend the 7800 core as it is still maintained and in general superior to the old 2600 core.

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I´m using the 2600/7800 core grabed by update all.

maybe is a polling issue?

thanks by the way for the quick reply

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Re: Atari 2600 Input

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Works absolutely fine with Daemonbyte for me. Using an original Atari Joystick.

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Re: Atari 2600 Input

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peke wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:19 pm

I´m using the 2600/7800 core grabed by update all.

maybe is a polling issue?

thanks by the way for the quick reply

Shouldn't be a polling issue. You said earlier you have different Daemonbite adapters in use. I don't know how they are seen from the MiSTer side. Maybe the MiSTer sees them as one device, have you tried to delete the input config for the core and to set the controller up again in the MiSTer main menu?

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