SCART RGB Lead for the MiSTer Analog I/O

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SCART RGB Lead for the MiSTer Analog I/O

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I seek an csync/rawsync VGA to RGB SCART cable in NTSC. Retro Access sells hq ones but they can't be ordered until a few months from now.

Are there other places I can get such a cable? I tried ebay but I'm not exactly sure the quality of those cables.
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Re: SCART RGB Lead for the MiSTer Analog I/O

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From what I've seen, they're planning on opening back up for orders tomorrow (May 2nd, 2021) so I'd check back then.

But if you don't have luck with them, the good news is pretty much any cable capable of carrying RGBs that has the H-sync line connected to SCART output's sync line will do.

The cables are just sets of conductors with no other components other than (usually) a resistor on the sync line to keep the voltage of the sync signal in check. They don't care about region, sync type, etc; there's nothing in them but metal. PAL vs. NTSC also doesn't matter in terms of cables for your MiSTer either. Other hardware (PS1 or modded N64 is a good example) might have more particular requirements built into the cables, but MiSTer is as simple as it gets IMO.

What exactly are you outputting to? If you're playing on a PVM, you could just get Monoprice's HD15-to-BNC cable. https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=566
They're reasonably well-made. The H-sync line is used for Csync on MiSTer (as well as Analogue's consoles.)

If all else fails and you're feeling like doing some DIY solder work, you could also consider getting a cheap male-to-male SCART cable, hacking it up with a VGA cable and an AUX cable and making your own. This is what I basically do and I haven't had much issue. The MiST project's design works fine for me: https://github.com/mist-devel/mist-boar ... ScartCable I just leave SCART pin 16 (RGB switch) disconnected because it's really not useful for me since I don't have any analog equipment that would make use of the RGB auto-switch signal.

I've also taken cheapo component RCA cables I got from a thrift store and hacked them together with a VGA cable to make a sort of budget 5 BNC type thing, since I already keep RCA-to-BNC adapters plugged into my PVM.
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Re: SCART RGB Lead for the MiSTer Analog I/O

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EmK_IronFist wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 10:23 am From what I've seen, they're planning on opening back up for orders tomorrow (May 2nd, 2021) so I'd check back then.

But if you don't have luck with them, the good news is pretty much any cable capable of carrying RGBs that has the H-sync line connected to SCART output's sync line will do.

The cables are just sets of conductors with no other components other than (usually) a resistor on the sync line to keep the voltage of the sync signal in check. They don't care about region, sync type, etc; there's nothing in them but metal. PAL vs. NTSC also doesn't matter in terms of cables for your MiSTer either. Other hardware (PS1 or modded N64 is a good example) might have more particular requirements built into the cables, but MiSTer is as simple as it gets IMO.

What exactly are you outputting to? If you're playing on a PVM, you could just get Monoprice's HD15-to-BNC cable. https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=566
They're reasonably well-made. The H-sync line is used for Csync on MiSTer (as well as Analogue's consoles.)

If all else fails and you're feeling like doing some DIY solder work, you could also consider getting a cheap male-to-male SCART cable, hacking it up with a VGA cable and an AUX cable and making your own. This is what I basically do and I haven't had much issue. The MiST project's design works fine for me: https://github.com/mist-devel/mist-boar ... ScartCable I just leave SCART pin 16 (RGB switch) disconnected because it's really not useful for me since I don't have any analog equipment that would make use of the RGB auto-switch signal.

I've also taken cheapo component RCA cables I got from a thrift store and hacked them together with a VGA cable to make a sort of budget 5 BNC type thing, since I already keep RCA-to-BNC adapters plugged into my PVM.
Soldering isn't apart of my skill set I'm afraid. My set-up is on a Sony PVM with BNC for RGB, paired with a SCART Matrix switcher. I already have one of these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/193398140176?h ... XQAEFSD-4B

Therefore I'll need the input for the Mister I/O to be VGA while the output is SCART.
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Re: SCART RGB Lead for the MiSTer Analog I/O

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Captain FPGA wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 12:14 pmMy set-up is on a Sony PVM with BNC for RGB, paired with a SCART Matrix switcher. I already have one of these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/193398140176?h ... XQAEFSD-4B

Therefore I'll need the input for the Mister I/O to be VGA while the output is SCART.
Ahh fair enough. If you don't have any luck with ordering from Retro Access (and I hope you do, the Genesis cable I got from them has been fantastic) then you could also consider getting Tim Worthington's 15 Khz VGA-to-SCART adapter. Might take a little while for shipping to you since he's based in Australia, but Tim makes great stuff: https://etim.net.au/shop/shop.php?crn=2 ... how_detail

For Tim's adapter you would also need a standard VGA cable, an audio cable and a 2-pin jumper to throw on the VGA_PWR header of your IO board so you could set it to output 5v power. Total cost would definitely be more than a good Retro Access cable but on the flipside you'd be able to swap out VGA and aux cables at any point, which would definitely be nice.
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Re: SCART RGB Lead for the MiSTer Analog I/O

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You might consider Ultimate SCART Adapter from Arcade Forge. I'm using it with my Direct Video to CRT TV (and PC+crtemudriver).

http://arcadeforge.net/UMSA/UMSA-Ultima ... r::57.html
http://scarthunter.blogspot.com/2012/06 ... eview.html
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Re: SCART RGB Lead for the MiSTer Analog I/O

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EmK_IronFist wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 1:28 pm
Captain FPGA wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 12:14 pmMy set-up is on a Sony PVM with BNC for RGB, paired with a SCART Matrix switcher. I already have one of these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/193398140176?h ... XQAEFSD-4B

Therefore I'll need the input for the Mister I/O to be VGA while the output is SCART.
Ahh fair enough. If you don't have any luck with ordering from Retro Access (and I hope you do, the Genesis cable I got from them has been fantastic) then you could also consider getting Tim Worthington's 15 Khz VGA-to-SCART adapter. Might take a little while for shipping to you since he's based in Australia, but Tim makes great stuff: https://etim.net.au/shop/shop.php?crn=2 ... how_detail

For Tim's adapter you would also need a standard VGA cable, an audio cable and a 2-pin jumper to throw on the VGA_PWR header of your IO board so you could set it to output 5v power. Total cost would definitely be more than a good Retro Access cable but on the flipside you'd be able to swap out VGA and aux cables at any point, which would definitely be nice.
I'm so sorry, I think I misread both your post and RA's site! I could've sworn that site said early October! My mistake. Looks like they will be ready tomorrow! I don't mind waiting the extra day. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Yeah I love that sites cables, they sold me half my Mega Drive and Nintendo leads and a 3DO one!

Still it's nice to have options. I appreciate the link to Tim's site.

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