MiSTer Multisystem - All-in-One System

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Bas wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:37 pm In retro gaming the line between computers and consoles is a bit blurry at best. Some consoles had keyboards, some computers took cartridges.. let's just have fun with all the awesomeness MiSTer brings us.
Even the Commodore 64 had a cartridge port and also a 'console' version that had no keyboard.

MiSTer can handle everything, so regardless if you use the stack configuration, wedge case, miniITX, or the Multisystem 'console' it's all good news for MiSTer, that's all that matters.

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neogeo81 wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm Yes but a computer taking cartridge doesn't blurr it to be part console. That is just the medium.

Which consoles had keyboards on the base unit?
The Magnavox Odyssey² is one such example:
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The Philips Videopac+ G7400 is another example:
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But yeah, these are definitely the exception to the rule.
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For those that have received these (mine is still in transit to oz), whats it like?
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alessiman wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:38 pm For those that have received these (mine is still in transit to oz), whats it like?
Ask me again tomorrow!
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neogeo81 wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
Which consoles had keyboards on the base unit?
The Bally Astrocade has a Calculator keypad in the console, you also expected to use program on Basic with it

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Right. Mines here and assembled. Case feels nice and solid and both sides mate really well. Assembly is simple but can be fiddly when routing cables but it's very neat when put together. All in all I'm very happy with it.
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Assembly video here

https://youtu.be/E69eDlNBpZo
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allyourbasekris wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:57 pm DSC_0131.JPG
Right. Mines here and assembled. Case feels nice and solid and both sides mate really well. Assembly is simple but can be fiddly when routing cables but it's very neat when put together. All in all I'm very happy with it.
Looking Good. MiSTer is so awesome.

I really hope you enjoy using the Multisystem.
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A good positive review...

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Hetzen wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:12 pm A good positive review...
Great Review. Now I want mine even more now. Hurry up Royal Post and get this to me!!
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Has the first batch started shipping out yet? I'm in the USA if it matters.
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Flashback wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:02 pm Has the first batch started shipping out yet? I'm in the USA if it matters.
Started shipping on the 26th. You should have received notice and a tracking number the day it shipped
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alessiman wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:11 am
Flashback wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:02 pm Has the first batch started shipping out yet? I'm in the USA if it matters.
Started shipping on the 26th. You should have received notice and a tracking number the day it shipped
Hmmm never received an email. Order said expected to ship end of November. I'll shoot them an email to see if there is a status thanks.
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Flashback wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:26 am
alessiman wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:11 am
Flashback wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:02 pm Has the first batch started shipping out yet? I'm in the USA if it matters.
Started shipping on the 26th. You should have received notice and a tracking number the day it shipped
Hmmm never received an email. Order said expected to ship end of November. I'll shoot them an email to see if there is a status thanks.
Do check with The Retro Group. They are shipping as fast as possible, all the board only shipments went out in just a few days. If you ordered a cased system or deluxe kit it will most probably depend slightly on the choice of case / colour (color) you selected - the 3D prints were being made in batches of colour / style in weekly batch change-overs. Trying to keep everyone happy, but making the most efficient use of the 3D printers.
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alessiman wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:11 am

Do check with The Retro Group. They are shipping as fast as possible, all the board only shipments went out in just a few days. If you ordered a cased system or deluxe kit it will most probably depend slightly on the choice of case / colour (color) you selected - the 3D prints were being made in batches of colour / style in weekly batch change-overs. Trying to keep everyone happy, but making the most efficient use of the 3D printers.
I sent a message through the website last night. I did order a case as well so that would make sense. Not trying to seem impatient... just checking since I hadn't heard anything. Thanks
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About 60% of the first Batch is shipped now wrote Neil on "Discord" today
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Multisystem arrived to Finland today, and I'm very pleased with it. Assembly was quite straightforward and fun. Thank you!
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Armas wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:55 pm Multisystem arrived to Finland today, and I'm very pleased with it. Assembly was quite straightforward and fun. Thank you!

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Fantastic! - great to hear it all went well. That's a really clean setup you have there, compact screen and wired controllers, good choice.

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An underrated retro hardware 'tuber gives you an in-depth look at how the multisystem is built and putting it together. Only a brief glimpse of software at the end, but if you wanted a close look at the hardware itself, here you go.

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I got mine yesterday and I have to agree with everyone else's reviews. The new board is very well designed and the quality of the 3D printed case is high. The fully assembled MMS feels dense and very solid. The only thing I would change right now is how the expansion cover is secured as it is very easy to remove or drop while moving the unit.
This being my second MiSTer takes away some of the magic of building and using one for the first time, but I really like the consolized form factor as it allows for easy management of cables, dongles and external SSD and it looks good on the AV cabinet next to other consoles.

I'm looking forward to what both Richard and the community come up with for the expansion port in 2022. A custom Mt32-pi with a Zero 2 and custom daemonbyte controller plates are more than likely to happen and would be quite cool to see.
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EvilRyu wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:12 am I got mine yesterday and I have to agree with everyone else's reviews. The new board is very well designed and the quality of the 3D printed case is high. The fully assembled MMS feels dense and very solid. The only thing I would change right now is how the expansion cover is secured as it is very easy to remove or drop while moving the unit.
This being my second MiSTer takes away some of the magic of building and using one for the first time, but I really like the consolized form factor as it allows for easy management of cables, dongles and external SSD and it looks good on the AV cabinet next to other consoles.

I'm looking forward to what both Richard and the community come up with for the expansion port in 2022. A custom Mt32-pi with a Zero 2 and custom daemonbyte controller plates are more than likely to happen and would be quite cool to see.
Thanks for the feedback, and I'm really happy you feel it's a good system. We are listening to what the community wants in 2022 and beyond, all and any feedback is very much welcome, encouraged and needed.

On the expansion port cover, (dust cover) this was originally a click-in fitting part, but some of the early testing indicated this was frustrating for people. It's good to get feedback on this as the dust cover port drops down, the base of the case also has side rails to allow a slot-in dust cover or front mounted expansion port. The idea being that if the USB 7 or SNAC/USER port is used then the 'module' can slot in from the front. Alternatively if the 46way expansion connector is used then the 'module' can push down (like the existing dust cover) - obviously that will lock in place because of the card edge slot.

I will take another look at the dust cover design, and also consider this with any of the expansion modules designed. Thanks again.

Cheers,

Richard.
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multisystem wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:22 am Thanks for the feedback, and I'm really happy you feel it's a good system. We are listening to what the community wants in 2022 and beyond, all and any feedback is very much welcome, encouraged and needed.

On the expansion port cover, (dust cover) this was originally a click-in fitting part, but some of the early testing indicated this was frustrating for people. It's good to get feedback on this as the dust cover port drops down, the base of the case also has side rails to allow a slot-in dust cover or front mounted expansion port. The idea being that if the USB 7 or SNAC/USER port is used then the 'module' can slot in from the front. Alternatively if the 46way expansion connector is used then the 'module' can push down (like the existing dust cover) - obviously that will lock in place because of the card edge slot.

I will take another look at the dust cover design, and also consider this with any of the expansion modules designed. Thanks again.

Cheers,

Richard.
All of this comes from having two toddlers that love touching and grabbing absolutely everything they see :) Under normal circumstances it would not really be a problem. Maybe I just need to use a bit of transparent sellotape to hold it in place :D

The rails are definitely a good design feature for the dust cover as it prevents it from moving horizontally and I suppose in the future having the cover attached to an expansion board and plugged into the expansion connector should provide a much stronger fit. Not sure if that is possible when using the USB/SNAC ports though, as you would be combining a board that plugs in from the front to the case with a cover that slides down from the top? But I guess at that point you can also design a new cover to work around it if needed.
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EvilRyu wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:40 pm
multisystem wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:22 am Thanks for the feedback, and I'm really happy you feel it's a good system. We are listening to what the community wants in 2022 and beyond, all and any feedback is very much welcome, encouraged and needed.

On the expansion port cover, (dust cover) this was originally a click-in fitting part, but some of the early testing indicated this was frustrating for people. It's good to get feedback on this as the dust cover port drops down, the base of the case also has side rails to allow a slot-in dust cover or front mounted expansion port. The idea being that if the USB 7 or SNAC/USER port is used then the 'module' can slot in from the front. Alternatively if the 46way expansion connector is used then the 'module' can push down (like the existing dust cover) - obviously that will lock in place because of the card edge slot.

I will take another look at the dust cover design, and also consider this with any of the expansion modules designed. Thanks again.

Cheers,

Richard.


All of this comes from having two toddlers that love touching and grabbing absolutely everything they see :) Under normal circumstances it would not really be a problem. Maybe I just need to use a bit of transparent sellotape to hold it in place :D

The rails are definitely a good design feature for the dust cover as it prevents it from moving horizontally and I suppose in the future having the cover attached to an expansion board and plugged into the expansion connector should provide a much stronger fit.
Not sure if that is possible when using the USB/SNAC ports though, as you would be combining a board that plugs in from the front to the case with a cover that slides down from the top? But I guess at that point you can also design a new cover to work around it if needed.
The lower half of the case base has both guides for front slide fitting and top down slide fitting - so a board with USB/SNAC connectors could also have a cover that slides in from the front - that was the original idea for SNAC modules, but I was concerned that anyone pulling on the controller cables may also pull out the 'module'. So that was the reason for also being able to do it on the expansion port as a module from the top.
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multisystem wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:10 pm
kconger wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:52 pm
Tapper wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:03 am Hello everyone. I'm new here. I don't own a MiSTer yet but am very interested. I'm especially fascinated to see how the Sega Saturn core turns out.

If/when I do get one, I will definitely want this multisystem console setup. It looks amazing.



Either style is good IMO, but I think I prefer B.

Also, I like the white case. Add a red logo and you have a very nice PC Engine looking design! :D
I went with this look with an eInk module I created. Just patiently waiting for my Multisystem to ship :)
That's looking very nice indeed. I will have to try out the secondary display system for MiSTer, that's going to look great in the Multisystem case. Would you consider sharing the modified 3D model files for this?
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Received my MMS board this week and was able to test everything. I've posted the model and everything else here:https://github.com/kconger/MiSTer_tty2epaper.
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Update: Dave from the RMC Store has contacted me (original email went to SPAM). So all good!

Okie Dokie,

I received my MiSTer Multisystem today in Australia and with Xmas and Covid the shipping time was reasonable (I am just glad i got it before xmas)

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The little thank you card was a welcome touch

However there are 3 big issues with my shipment

1.) I only received 3 of the 4 standoffs


As you can see on the attached picture, only 3 of the white standoffs shipped with my order. While i am able to get away with 3 of them its not ideal.

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2.) There was no back plate included either!


I am pretty sure one was meant to have been shipped with the order

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3.) One of the brass screw mounts of Top Cover was faulty

Obviously bad luck must run in threes for me as the third issue was that the top right (looking down) screw post was filled with 3D print filament making it impossible for me to mount the last screw. I only picked this up when the brass mount fell out when i disassembled it for troubleshooting

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It's currently in the middle of an update all but i'll test out one of the cores before bed time.

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Overall, i am happy i have received it but the quality control with parts and case have left a sour taste in my mouth considering the price i paid for it. Right now i feel i am paying to be a beta tester for the unit rather than buying a finished product

As a comparison my other MiSTer Case (A Checkmate 1500 Mini) from Stephen Jones was a seamless experience.

Hopefully i can get the missing parts and a replacement top case. Will contact the RMCStore in the morning
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Oh, that's a shame, of course, but it can happen. We humans make mistakes. But I am very sure that the complaint will be processed to your complete satisfaction.
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alessiman wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:53 am As a comparison my other MiSTer Case (A Checkmate 1500 Mini) from Stephen Jones was a seamless experience.
not sure they can really be compared to each other. they've got different markets, price points, fulfilling different needs.
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TL:DR - original post was about getting a SNAC adapter working on the multisystem. Found the answer a couple of hours after posting but couldn't delete this post.

My 3 issues with my received multisystem remain
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Is it still possible to connect a MT32-Pi Hat to the Multisystem? I am not familiar if it needs a specific port or any USB port will work. Or if it would be possible to somehow make it fit on that front removable expansion slot area.
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Cyber Akuma wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:15 pm Is it still possible to connect a MT32-Pi Hat to the Multisystem? I am not familiar if it needs a specific port or any USB port will work. Or if it would be possible to somehow make it fit on that front removable expansion slot area.
Yes, the SNAC port is located on the front of the multisystem
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