CAVE 68000 Any News for MiSTer

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I had lots of problems with most of the arcade cores when using a USB drive. What I ultimately did that, so far, has not had any issues was to put only the games folder on the USB drive, except for the mame and hbmame folders, which I left in the games folder on the SD card.
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crashes directly for me aswell :cry: MiSTer XS-D 128MB SDRAM
i just see a "Kbd mode: Joystick 1" message on screen.
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SuperBabyHix wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:18 pm I had lots of problems with most of the arcade cores when using a USB drive. What I ultimately did that, so far, has not had any issues was to put only the games folder on the USB drive, except for the mame and hbmame folders, which I left in the games folder on the SD card.
I never had any problem with arcades cores on a USB Drive, either with only the games directory on the USB drive or when "Switching to USB". The only problems I experienced are the same as everyone else had and which are unrelated to the fact that the files are on a USB drive or not.
One thing I did was to write a script to keep the drive spinning at all time.
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I had no problems with this core yesterday. Worked great and I was using the spdif out from the io board.
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Dex wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:52 pm crashes directly for me aswell :cry: MiSTer XS-D 128MB SDRAM
i just see a "Kbd mode: Joystick 1" message on screen.
Sadly, same for me :(
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Sorry some folks are having trouble getting the core to run.

I just posted something about this on my Patreon (public post): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46222825

TL;DR I'm working on the boot issues for some people.
MiSTer core developer: Rygar, Gemini Wing, Silkworm, CAVE
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nullobject wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:41 am Sorry some folks are having trouble getting the core to run.

I just posted something about this on my Patreon (public post): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46222825

TL;DR I'm working on the boot issues for some people.
Don't worry, and thank you so much for your work.
I have the "Keyboard" message, waiting, waiting, waiting ... nothing :-(
Hope you will be able to find the bug.
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my HDTV isnt compatible with 57.5hz, so i have to run the game in 60hz mode, but DDP plays great !
really looking forward to more cave titles, @nullobject :D

and im especially looking forward to the planned toaplan v2 arcades.
garegga and batrider will be a dream come true
(and the more standard refresh rate, 59.6hz, will be compatible with my HDTV, and probably most other people as well)
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DDP plays great for me as well. Thank you for the awesome work nullobject.
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Sadly, new update but still doesn't work :-(
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Michael1260 wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:56 pm Sadly, new update but still doesn't work :-(
That sucks man. What are your symptoms now? Still on the first screen?

With so many people having problems, I wonder if anyone is willing to send nullobject their MiSTer setup so he can look into it?
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XtraSmiley wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:41 pm
Michael1260 wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:56 pm Sadly, new update but still doesn't work :-(
That sucks man. What are your symptoms now? Still on the first screen?

With so many people having problems, I wonder if anyone is willing to send nullobject their MiSTer setup so he can look into it?

Yes, still on first screen. Mister locks with a "keyboard" message
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Same here I tried Chris's config files and swap 128mb to a 32mb no change.
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i had a similar issue loading the core as well.
i would run the core and it would just hang on the keyboard message and then my TV would say "mode not supported".
what "fixed" my boot problem was finding out my HDTV is not compatible with 57.5hz, so i had to start the core in 60hz mode.

https://filebin.net/d2bvj5o42jtf2l7g - someone in the classic gaming discord uploaded that for me
(put that in your media/fat/config folder on your mister and it will set DDP to start in 60hz)

i cant play DDP (or any of the upcoming 1st gen cave games) in the original refresh/speed, and at 60hz, it is sped up to ~104%, but it does play great!

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as an aside, i was wondering if it would be possible to have the 60hz mode slowed down by ~4% to match the original game speed?
perhaps someone could do this with a game patch, or nullobject could implement a CPU underclock setting for 60hz mode that will better match the original refresh rate/speed when in 60hz mode ??
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I have 0 issue with DoDonpachi, i soldered everything myself and works like a charm.
Using the update all script.
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Back to my setup Switched to USB.
Some remarks:
It does not seem to be a memory problem.
It does not seem to be a problem with the media (SD/USB) although it seems to be somewhat better on SD.
The Japan version boots almost every time.
The No Warn version boots most of the time.
The Arrange and International version boot more infrequently with the International version being the most difficult.
When switching between the different mras the remnants of the previous mra are still on the screen and are not static: engines still running, fire ball still whirling, ..., even after a cold boot using MISTer button.
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jca wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:33 pm Back to my setup Switched to USB.
Some remarks:
It does not seem to be a memory problem.
It does not seem to be a problem with the media (SD/USB) although it seems to be somewhat better on SD.
The Japan version boots almost every time.
The No Warn version boots most of the time.
The Arrange and International version boot more infrequently with the International version being the most difficult.
When switching between the different mras the remnants of the previous mra are still on the screen and are not static: engines still running, fire ball still whirling, ..., even after a cold boot using MISTer button.
I have the same behavior with mine that you are seeing.

https://youtu.be/tw9LoUUTthU
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While updating remotely my MISTer for Minimig I noticed an update to the Cave mras and addition of 2 new ones Dangun Feveron and ESP Ra.De.
I will test them later.
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They aren't working yet; I don't believe the RBF has been updated. (I tried compiling the rbf myself and they don't work with latest code either, so perhaps more work is required)
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Thanks.
Also, the MAME GETTER does not download the dfeveron.zip, only the esprade.zip.
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The mra files were put in the release folder by error.
These games are not playable yet.
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Mister crashes for me as well. Stuck at a black screen with kbd mode: joystick 1 showing. Has there been a solution to this yet?
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DaveGeorge wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:48 pm Mister crashes for me as well. Stuck at a black screen with kbd mode: joystick 1 showing. Has there been a solution to this yet?
Have you waited enough for the core to boot? Some times it takes a good 10-15 seconds. Try the Japanese rom first. Also try cold restarting the MiSTer, then launch again.
@nullobject is aware of the issues and is working to resolve them.
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lamarax wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:00 pm

Have you waited enough for the core to boot? Some times it takes a good 10-15 seconds. Try the Japanese rom first. Also try cold restarting the MiSTer, then launch again.
@nullobject is aware of the issues and is working to resolve them.
Yup, I even gave it a few minutes. 😛 I’ll give it a few more tries later tonight, especially the japanese rom. Thanks!
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DaveGeorge wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:47 pm Yup, I even gave it a few minutes. 😛 I’ll give it a few more tries later tonight, especially the japanese rom. Thanks!
Heads up! This important update to the framework by Sorg today, reportedly* fixes the problem as well with the CV 68K core not booting (issues were apparently related).

*I say reportedly because I haven't experienced such a problem myself since beta 5 of the Cave core, although I did often get the 'garbled screen' one that Sorge describes, requiring a hard reset each time.
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Sadly, still doesn’t work for me :-(
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lamarax wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:45 pm
DaveGeorge wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:47 pm Yup, I even gave it a few minutes. 😛 I’ll give it a few more tries later tonight, especially the japanese rom. Thanks!
Heads up! This important update to the framework by Sorg today, reportedly* fixes the problem as well with the CV 68K core not booting (issues were apparently related).

*I say reportedly because I haven't experienced such a problem myself since beta 5 of the Cave core, although I did often get the 'garbled screen' one that Sorge describes, requiring a hard reset each time.
The issue that bellwood420 tries to fix with the menu core is not related to the issue of the Cave core. Sorgelig describes it a "DDR3 bridge hang". As the issue here only affects users with certain SD-RAM modules it is not a DDR3 issue.
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Please follow the issue before commenting. DoDonPachi core depends on DDRAM onboard the D-10 (I can't be more technical in my description here).

The whole SDRAM thing has been beaten to death, and I think most of us (including Jotego himself at this point) have come to conclusions regarding possible ways of tackling relevant restrictions. The Cave core booting issue has nothing to do with SDRAM whatsoever.

Thank you!
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Apologies I wasn't aware of this development, should have paid more attention you are right. I still thought of the SDRam issue that this core has and that in fact is tied to the module (was able to test it myself). The DDR issue is something different. Let's see if it works.
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Updating the menu core did not help me get the Cave core to work either unfortunatly. But from what I understand the update is supposed to help video from glitching out occasionally after changing cores?
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