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Is it possible to add a JLP accelerator support in a Intellivision core??

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New to mister and am interested in getting the intv core running with a ssva or flashback controller. Is the 2600 daptor d9 still the only option?

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Mattyv wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:08 pm

New to mister and am interested in getting the intv core running with a ssva or flashback controller. Is the 2600 daptor d9 still the only option?

No because its not being made anymore

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Thanks. Is there any other solution?

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Mattyv wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:19 pm

Thanks. Is there any other solution?

Retronic Design USB Adapter with the INTV Flashback firmware.

https://www.retronicdesign.com/en/store/
https://github.com/retronicdesign/USBJo ... s/tag/v3.3

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Ashfall wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:47 pm
Mattyv wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:19 pm

Thanks. Is there any other solution?

Retronic Design USB Adapter with the INTV Flashback firmware.

https://www.retronicdesign.com/en/store/
https://github.com/retronicdesign/USBJo ... s/tag/v3.3

Thank you. Just ordered a couple. I'll give them a try.

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Mattyv wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:47 pm

Thank you. Just ordered a couple. I'll give them a try.

They will not work properly with the MiSTer. I even reached out to Retronic Designs to ask if they would consider supporting the MiSTer. Short answer: no.

The reason they will not work is due to the design of the IntelliVision controller's folded membrane circuit. With many of the key presses, it is actually activating multiple buttons at once and the console interprets those as a single button press. The MiSTer sees these as multiple button presses. I don't know of a method to do anything about that.

They will work with jzInTV on a PC though, and you can use some Sega controllers with them on the MiSTer. I really am kicking myself for not ordering a different adapter before they went out of production.

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You could probably use a DualShock or similar controller. Use the left thumbstick for the directional disc, then for each game temporarily map the buttons to functions in the game. Most games don't use all the buttons. Keep a piece of paper with your preferred mappings for each game written down (or do it in Notepad or whatever).

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Paradroyd wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:12 am
Lightwave wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:02 pm

YES! I got 16 directions working!

You need to make sure that you set the last 2 analog control directions (down/right) at the very end of the MiSTer menu joystick button mapping sequence (NOT in the Intellivision core itself)

I'm guessing that I skipped mapping these previously, as I had already mapped the directional pad as a dpad (and also due to the fact that the direction pad doesn't register as analog during the initial detection test, making it seem like it isn't detected as an analog controller).

Tested in Cloudy Mountain and Discs of Tron, working exactly as it should now

@zakk4223 I wish I had seen your post as it would have saved me a lot of trouble, but I only noticed it when I came back to post my success here :)

Confirmed! It's working with my original Sears Intellivision controller and one of the Vision-daptors. It's not a subtle difference either, I can immediately tell that it's true 16 directions. Just to be sure I loaded that diagnostic demo and it's working.

It took me a couple of tries to figure out which part of the mapping you were talking about, but once I got it it's working great!

Thanks to everyone that's been working to figure this out over the past few days! Now I can quite having to resort to RetroPie for Intellivision.

I'll try it on my other MiSTer with my newer 2600-daptors with more Sears Intellivision controllers tomorrow and report back, but I'll bet it works fine taking the analog approach.

I am trying to get my intellision controller to go analogue with mister fpga, but I am not understanding this method. Could you offer some advice?

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JayDee wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:28 pm
Paradroyd wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:12 am
Lightwave wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:02 pm

YES! I got 16 directions working!

You need to make sure that you set the last 2 analog control directions (down/right) at the very end of the MiSTer menu joystick button mapping sequence (NOT in the Intellivision core itself)

I'm guessing that I skipped mapping these previously, as I had already mapped the directional pad as a dpad (and also due to the fact that the direction pad doesn't register as analog during the initial detection test, making it seem like it isn't detected as an analog controller).

Tested in Cloudy Mountain and Discs of Tron, working exactly as it should now

@zakk4223 I wish I had seen your post as it would have saved me a lot of trouble, but I only noticed it when I came back to post my success here :)

Confirmed! It's working with my original Sears Intellivision controller and one of the Vision-daptors. It's not a subtle difference either, I can immediately tell that it's true 16 directions. Just to be sure I loaded that diagnostic demo and it's working.

It took me a couple of tries to figure out which part of the mapping you were talking about, but once I got it it's working great!

Thanks to everyone that's been working to figure this out over the past few days! Now I can quite having to resort to RetroPie for Intellivision.

I'll try it on my other MiSTer with my newer 2600-daptors with more Sears Intellivision controllers tomorrow and report back, but I'll bet it works fine taking the analog approach.

I am trying to get my intellision controller to go analogue with mister fpga, but I am not understanding this method. Could you offer some advice?

Which USB adapter and which controller(s) are you using?

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Hi, I have been struggling for the last few hours to setup the intellivision Flashback controller with the Intellivision Core.
I have read the all the posts but clearly must be doing something wrong.

I am using an Ultimate PC Interface (Version 2) in conjunction with a Flashback controller. I can use the controller to navigate the Mister menus but nothing is recognised in a game or on the controller test rom.

I have tried the controller in both DB9 ports of the Ultimate PC Interface as well.

After having no success, I updated the firmware to the latest 2018 version of firmware for the version 2 ultimate PC interface. This made no difference.
I deleted the Map files from Config/Input and started again using the below process.

The steps I have followed....
I start in the Mister main menu and setup the controller. I hit space to ignore all the settings (e.g. Dpad etc) apart from the ones referring to Stick 1 (is this correct)?
This method allows me to configure Right and Down on the Flashback controller's disk as if it were stick 1.
I then move to the Intellivision core whereby I configure everything, Disk, action buttons, numbers etc. Each item, Disc, button or keypad is recognised.

However when I start a game nothing works. I can move the character with they keyboard but not the controller.
The fact that I can navigate the Mister Menus and configure...in my mind means that it is working on some level.

Please can somebody help, I am running out of ideas.

EDIT: I have now sorted it.
For anyone else struggling when I was setting up the controller within the Mister menu, I was being selective in my choices as an Intellivision controller isn't like a gamepad in its configuration. So I was skipping a lot of the buttons.
Use the Disk on the controller for any d-pad or stick config that allows it. Use space bar to skip if it doesn't allow it. For all buttons simply work your way through the numbers on the numpad. When you get to mouse config, skip with the spacebar. Finally finish off on the Disk with the last 2 directions (Right and Down).
Now you can go to the Intellivision core and configure the controller correctly within the core as this mapping overides the mister mapping.
Hope that helps someone.

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Intellivision was the best!

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BabaYaga326 wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:21 pm

Intellivision was the best!

Are those Intellivision 1 controllers modded to be detachable?

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Yes. I got them several years ago and I use the (now discontinued) ultimate PC interface. I reached out to MisterAddons over a year ago to see if he'd be interested in selling some INTV adaptors. Perhaps if more of us were to remind him of the need?

https://misteraddons.com/pages/contact

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I love it when everyone stops making the Intellivision to USB adapters at the same time and I go in a thread like this and people are posting pics of their setups and all of their Intellivision stuff :(

If anyone has an extra Intellivision to USB adapter that works with Mister please let me know. I live in Los Angeles. Thanks!

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darkwombat wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:08 pm

I love it when everyone stops making the Intellivision to USB adapters at the same time and I go in a thread like this and people are posting pics of their setups and all of their Intellivision stuff :(

Tell me about it. I chose to purchase the Retronic Designs adapter instead of a different one, and by the time I gave up on making it work with the MiSTer, I could no longer get one of the others!

I would definitely purchase two if I only could.

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Good morning, yesterday the plug-in "update-all" downloaded the new Intellivision 250325 core.
I saw that it should have JLP support but trying some games that require the JLP flash I saw that they do not work.
In the menu there is also an entry like JLP RW FLASH .SAV
Do you have any news about this?

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simonevinci wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:51 am

In the menu there is also an entry like JLP RW FLASH .SAV
Do you have any news about this?

The menu is to select a .SAV file for storing the JLP FLASH content. Its size should be around 64kB.

Which game doesn't work?

The big thing that is missing in the Intellivision core is the support of memory mapping .CFG files.

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I tried some homebrew games like 'Defender of The Crown' and 'X-Rally' but I can't get them to work.

Where can I find the .SAV file for storing the JLP FLASH content?

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simonevinci wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 12:41 pm

I tried some homebrew games like 'Defender of The Crown' and 'X-Rally' but I can't get them to work.

Where can I find the .SAV file for storing the JLP FLASH content?

You can create an empty file with a command like that :

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dd if=/dev/zero of=sav.sav bs=1 count=65536
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PistolsAtDawn wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:50 pm
Mattyv wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:47 pm

Thank you. Just ordered a couple. I'll give them a try.

They will not work properly with the MiSTer. I even reached out to Retronic Designs to ask if they would consider supporting the MiSTer. Short answer: no.

The reason they will not work is due to the design of the IntelliVision controller's folded membrane circuit. With many of the key presses, it is actually activating multiple buttons at once and the console interprets those as a single button press. The MiSTer sees these as multiple button presses. I don't know of a method to do anything about that.

They will work with jzInTV on a PC though, and you can use some Sega controllers with them on the MiSTer. I really am kicking myself for not ordering a different adapter before they went out of production.

PistolsAtDawn wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:12 pm
darkwombat wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:08 pm

I love it when everyone stops making the Intellivision to USB adapters at the same time and I go in a thread like this and people are posting pics of their setups and all of their Intellivision stuff :(

Tell me about it. I chose to purchase the Retronic Designs adapter instead of a different one, and by the time I gave up on making it work with the MiSTer, I could no longer get one of the others!

I would definitely purchase two if I only could.

The multiple buttons seen in the Retronic Intellivision USB are for a specific Jzintv feature that uses the controller eight data bits rather than mapping each button and disc function. The bits appear as eight extra buttons and are the reason for the appearance of multiple buttons when one controller button or direction is pressed.

Attached is a modified firmware with the extra buttons removed. Use the same utilities from the Retronic website to install this firmware on any RetronicUSB v3.x adapter. Try it and let us know if it works.

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TLPD-AVW wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:25 pm

Are those Intellivision 1 controllers modded to be detachable?

The original Intellivision controllers are detachable, but the connectors are inside the case on the main PCB. What you see in the picture is that straight 9-pin connector with a custom DE-9 adapter attached.

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ifpga wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:50 am
PistolsAtDawn wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:50 pm
Mattyv wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:47 pm

Thank you. Just ordered a couple. I'll give them a try.

They will not work properly with the MiSTer. I even reached out to Retronic Designs to ask if they would consider supporting the MiSTer. Short answer: no.

The reason they will not work is due to the design of the IntelliVision controller's folded membrane circuit. With many of the key presses, it is actually activating multiple buttons at once and the console interprets those as a single button press. The MiSTer sees these as multiple button presses. I don't know of a method to do anything about that.

They will work with jzInTV on a PC though, and you can use some Sega controllers with them on the MiSTer. I really am kicking myself for not ordering a different adapter before they went out of production.

PistolsAtDawn wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:12 pm
darkwombat wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:08 pm

I love it when everyone stops making the Intellivision to USB adapters at the same time and I go in a thread like this and people are posting pics of their setups and all of their Intellivision stuff :(

Tell me about it. I chose to purchase the Retronic Designs adapter instead of a different one, and by the time I gave up on making it work with the MiSTer, I could no longer get one of the others!

I would definitely purchase two if I only could.

The multiple buttons seen in the Retronic Intellivision USB are for a specific Jzintv feature that uses the controller eight data bits rather than mapping each button and disc function. The bits appear as eight extra buttons and are the reason for the appearance of multiple buttons when one controller button or direction is pressed.

Attached is a modified firmware with the extra buttons removed. Use the same utilities from the Retronic website to install this firmware on any RetronicUSB v3.x adapter. Try it and let us know if it works.

Wow! Thank you! I will definitely try this out soon.

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Any word if the firmware with the Retronic Intellivision USB works with Mister FPGA?

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