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Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:56 am
by akeley

A great Xmas gift for fans of old microcomputers, especially the Tandy underdog ones. Thank you, @alanswx!

I'll give it a whirl after work (if the analog video works, that is). It's an alpha release, so let's test ride it and see what's what.


Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:03 pm
by Pepeart
Can you give me a hint, where you found the 3 roms? Its analog video working? Thank you

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:25 pm
by lamarax
aahh, what the heck. Here's your hint:
CoCo3.7z
(26.6 KiB) Downloaded 437 times
Please note; Cartridges work fine, cassettes load fine, but the extended disk color BASIC rom included (last version 1.4 from 1985), gives me trouble mounting .dsk files. Go to TRS-80 Color Computer Archive, to test your luck with the plethora of dumps :lol:

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:30 pm
by Pepeart
Thank you

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:36 pm
by akeley
Just had a quick looksee...15Khz analog video works fine, that's a big relief :)

Tried to load some stuff, but did not have much luck
-carts: tried a few but only a couple did work for me (Dragonfire & Tetris)
-tape: tried CLOAD on a couple of files but get either ?I/O or FM errors
-disk: no dice at all, I don't think it's "connected" because it doesn't display Disk BASIC, only the Extended one.

The core often hangs on the three-guys pic when trying to reboot.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:13 pm
by lamarax
Yeah my bad, you'll want this instead:
boot1.rom.7z
(6.83 KiB) Downloaded 383 times
That's the disk extended color BASIC (v 2.1)

Still, I cannot fathom how to load disk images; all 4 reported drives won't let me boot to any .dsk. Maybe there's a command we need to enter at the prompt :oops:

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:39 pm
by jca
I was having a real hard time to have this core work. I downloaded many many different roms and even the roms posted above. Each time I get a green screen with a brown "cursor" on the upper left and randomly placed "black holes". I went back to the Wiki to see what I was doing wrong but could not find anything until I looked in the docs folder: The external 128MB ram board is required for functionality.
It would have been a really good idea to mention this in the readme and would have saved me a few hours of wasting my time.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:53 pm
by Skeeter
lamarax wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:13 pm Still, I cannot fathom how to load disk images; all 4 reported drives won't let me boot to any .dsk. Maybe there's a command we need to enter at the prompt :oops:
Once you have your .dsk file selected type "DIR" to get a content listing of the disk.
Then type LOADM"GAMENAME" to load the game.
Depending on the game this might take a little while before you see the OK prompt again.
Then type EXEC to run said game.
LOADM"GAMENAME":EXEC will load and run..

For example Donkey Kong Remix. LOADM"DKREMIX":EXEC will load and run the game.

Note: Set Swap joysticks "On"

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:19 pm
by akeley
Yep, with that other boot1 disk is working ok. Here's also a Quick Reference Card for some more commands.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:08 am
by ericgus09
Does this core support UART serial? ala the C64/PC/Amiga cores?

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:05 am
by JudgeDrokk
What's the difference between this and Roger Taylor's "REALCOCO" core?

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:04 am
by NML32
ericgus09 wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:08 am Does this core support UART serial? ala the C64/PC/Amiga cores?
Yes, I called Level29 BBS.
https://youtu.be/QIJqLXn0QLQ

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:37 am
by bazza_12
JudgeDrokk wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:05 am What's the difference between this and Roger Taylor's "REALCOCO" core?
always preferred spandau ballet.. :lol:

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:24 pm
by Fallon
Having input problems despite swapping joysticks in the OSD, in Donkey Kong and Joust, only one button seems to respond.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:07 pm
by kathleen
Fallon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:24 pm Having input problems despite swapping joysticks in the OSD, in Donkey Kong and Joust, only one button seems to respond.
I cannot clmb the ladders in DK remix under the Coco3 core. Left, Right, Jump are OK but the UP seems to do not working, Is this working on your side ?

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:48 pm
by NML32
kathleen wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:07 pm
Fallon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:24 pm Having input problems despite swapping joysticks in the OSD, in Donkey Kong and Joust, only one button seems to respond.
I cannot clmb the ladders in DK remix under the Coco3 core. Left, Right, Jump are OK but the UP seems to do not working, Is this working on your side ?
Works for me. I tried with my m30 2.4g and my Sony Playstation joystick.
Maybe try remapping your controller. You might have to delete your coco3 config file.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:34 pm
by Reed_Solomon
JudgeDrokk wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:05 am What's the difference between this and Roger Taylor's "REALCOCO" core?
This one is open source and based on Gary Beckers core. Roger Taylors core is closed source and I suppose ultimately irrelevant to the MiSTer FPGA project at this point.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:08 am
by testarossa
Hi,

tried this core and quite a lot is working: tape files, ccc and disk. I was able to load programs from disk, even OS9 and Nitros9.
The only thing not really working is joystick support. Left, right and both fire-buttons work but up and down is completely ignored. I tried deleting the config file, and new button assign etc. with different joystick, but to no avail.
cheers

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:44 am
by NML32
testarossa wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:08 am Hi,

tried this core and quite a lot is working: tape files, ccc and disk. I was able to load programs from disk, even OS9 and Nitros9.
The only thing not really working is joystick support. Left, right and both fire-buttons work but up and down is completely ignored. I tried deleting the config file, and new button assign etc. with different joystick, but to no avail.
cheers
I think the fix to your controller issue is in this thread. Reconfigure your controller from the MiSTer Main menu. Don't skip the "Stick X: Tilt Right" or "Stick Y: Tilt Down"
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=17

You can see it here in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck4BAt82lHM

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:23 am
by Fallon
NML32 wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:44 am
I think the fix to your controller issue is in this thread. Reconfigure your controller from the MiSTer Main menu. Don't skip the "Stick X: Tilt Right" or "Stick Y: Tilt Down"
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=17

You can see it here in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck4BAt82lHM

Gave this a go, it's still not working - cannot get my 360 wireless to work with COCO3.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:12 am
by LamerDeluxe
This is the first computer core with shadow mask support, which is really cool.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:48 pm
by ericgus09
NML32 wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:04 am
ericgus09 wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:08 am Does this core support UART serial? ala the C64/PC/Amiga cores?
Yes, I called Level29 BBS.
https://youtu.be/QIJqLXn0QLQ
Excellent! .. Look forward to trying this out .. much love to the core devs..

I need to setup the midilink aliases .. any guide handy on that?

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 11:39 pm
by caffeinekid
This is a lot of fun to check out. It seems a rather advanced machine for it's time. I was still half way through my ZX Spectrum days when this was released.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:21 am
by gwobcke
Reed_Solomon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:34 pm
JudgeDrokk wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:05 am What's the difference between this and Roger Taylor's "REALCOCO" core?
This one is open source and based on Gary Beckers core. Roger Taylors core is closed source and I suppose ultimately irrelevant to the MiSTer FPGA project at this point.
Being closed source does not make it irrelevant - I am happy to support it, even if it goes against some idealisms.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:40 pm
by JudgeDrokk
bazza_12 wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:37 am
JudgeDrokk wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:05 am What's the difference between this and Roger Taylor's "REALCOCO" core?
always preferred spandau ballet.. :lol:
:roll:

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:35 am
by Skeeter
LamerDeluxe wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:12 am This is the first computer core with shadow mask support, which is really cool.
Not quite the first, the x68000 had it a few weeks prior. Still cool though.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:38 am
by LamerDeluxe
Skeeter wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:35 am
LamerDeluxe wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:12 am This is the first computer core with shadow mask support, which is really cool.
Not quite the first, the x68000 had it a few weeks prior. Still cool though.
Ah, of course, I should have expected that. Still need to take some time to properly check that one out.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:52 pm
by Reed_Solomon
gwobcke wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:21 am Being closed source does not make it irrelevant - I am happy to support it, even if it goes against some idealisms.
Closed source projects are pretty much Irrelevant to an open source project. It might be relevant to people who wish to use it, but it provides no noticeable benefit to the mister FPGA project itself.

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:10 am
by Pepeart
The following cart games Robocop, Predator and Pitfall are not working, am I right? Thank you

Re: Coco3 Core Released

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:23 am
by cathrynmataga
I can't get Robocop or Predator working myself. I think you're right.