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Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:38 am
by LamerDeluxe
pbsk8 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:30 am
only those 10 games are supported by now? Or can I get more roms from mame romset?
Only games that use a SM-510 MCU can be converted at the moment. You can use ROMs and artwork from the MAME G&W rom set. I'm working on adding readme information to the repository, explaining how to create bin files using the generator tool.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:18 am
by vitopod
jca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:04 pm
Today: update to the core but sadly black screen for me (HDMI).
Hi to all,
same issue here via HDMI. I run the core and load bin files I got from the torrent but I get just blank screens (except for Tropical fish and Turtle bridge, but games does not start anyway).
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:27 am
by OriginalXOR
Massive thank you to Pierco for this and indeed Tonton for getting a few ROMs compiled too...
While not exactly a direction I ever expected Mister to take, I'm still very impressed by the results.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:41 am
by jca
@ vitopod
As I mentioned it later on it all started to work, I did not even restart my MISTer. Today I just started my MISTer, started the core and all roms load fine.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:35 pm
by NightShadowPT
Dumb question... I cannot seem to get the right directory name to put the Roms in... I've tried "GnW", "Game&Watch" and "GameWatch"...
Could not find this info in the GitHub page...
Any pointers here? Thanks in advance.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:54 pm
by pcfreak324
NightShadowPT wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:35 pm
Dumb question... I cannot seem to get the right directory name to put the Roms in... I've tried "GnW", "Game&Watch" and "GameWatch"...
The folder has to be named "Game & Watch".
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 2:17 pm
by jca
When in a core menu look on the left side in the vertical white band: it is the name to use. Exception Minimig -> Amiga.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 3:36 pm
by KremlingKuthroat19
Here's all the CPU cores for G&W and the number of games supported:
-ATmega169PV: 1 game
-SM510: 18 games
-SM511: 23 games
-SM512: 4 games
-SM5A: 15 games
Currently, the SM510 is the only one of these CPUs implemented. 10 ROMs have been created for this core. However, 8 haven't been done yet. Here's instructions on how to generate the ROMs:
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/GnW_MiS ... 4da4d14578, and these are the missing games:
-Crab Grab
-Donkey Kong
-Lifeboat
-Manhole
-Mario Bros.
-Mickey & Donald
-Rain Shower
-Spitball Sparky
This page on MAME's GitHub was one of my resources:
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/ma ... _sm510.cpp and it lists the R-Zone as a "child driver" of the Sharp SM5xx family of handhelds. Does this mean that this core could eventually support R-Zone games? Also, the Electronika IM-26 is a Russian bootleg hardware clone of the Game & Watch so those games could eventually be supported as well
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:49 pm
by TLPD-AVW
KremlingKuthroat19 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 3:36 pm
Also, the Electronika IM-26 is a Russian bootleg hardware clone of the Game & Watch so those games could eventually be supported as well
Electronica handhelds run on complete clones of Sharp CPUs and I believe they have identical roms to Game & Watch originals, so I assume they should already work with SM510 roms when supplied with Soviet graphics.
There was however one unique Electronica game called Автослалом (Autoslalom) which had no Japanese original, but that game runs on a clone of SM5A CPU.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:53 pm
by lamarax
If anybody's looking for the missing SM510 games, search for "
Game & Watch MiSTer FPGA" in the archive
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:57 pm
by Moondandy
Ace, thanks for doing those!
Looks like the remaining ones are:
-Crab Grab (doesn't seem to be artwork for this one, and is tall screen)
-Rain Shower (tall screen)
-Spitball Sparky (2 screens side by side)
A assuming these different screen layouts aren't supported yet, you can see the artwork for the games here:
https://www.progettosnaps.net/artworks/ ... scription=
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:01 am
by LamerDeluxe
Moondandy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:57 pm
Ace, thanks for doing those!
Looks like the remaining ones are:
-Crab Grab (doesn't seem to be artwork for this one, and is tall screen)
-Rain Shower (tall screen)
-Spitball Sparky (2 screens side by side)
A assuming these different screen layouts aren't supported yet, you can see the artwork for the games here:
https://www.progettosnaps.net/artworks/ ... scription=
I converted Rain Shower for an older version of the core, it worked fine. Spitball Sparky converted fine as well, but uses color tricks that can't currently be replicated on the core. Same thing with Crab Grab, I did find artwork for it.
EDIT: Turns out my Rain Shower conversion still works with the current version of the core.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:13 am
by AmintaMister
Just to confirm: Game&Watch Core doesn't work on CRT via analog I/O, isn't?
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:52 am
by wark91
Yes it is not working. It needs some updates to make it works
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:32 am
by mic_
Happy to see this getting released. I experienced some graphical glitches in Donkey Kong Jr, like weird noisy ghosting effects. But that might be a problem with the ROM rather than the core.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:37 am
by LamerDeluxe
mic_ wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:32 am
Happy to see this getting released. I experienced some graphical glitches in Donkey Kong Jr, like weird noisy ghosting effects. But that might be a problem with the ROM rather than the core.
This is caused by the anti-aliasing functionality. It can be turned off for now, when converting a game, by using a mask expansion value of zero.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:30 am
by LamerDeluxe
As a test with non-Nintendo games, I've just converted Konami Top Gun and it works. Not sure what the time location parameter does, but it didn't have to be changed.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:31 pm
by wark91
Confirmed with Konami - Double Dribble (handheld)
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Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:52 pm
by Pierco
So Cool!! Thank you for testing the non-Nintendo games! I will have to update the readme
I'm currently working on the anti-aliasing problem with double-screen games. I need to rewrite a part of the generator but it will have no impact on the binary files so old generated games will remain compatible.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:27 pm
by LamerDeluxe
Pierco wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:52 pm
So Cool!! Thank you for testing the non-Nintendo games! I will have to update the readme
I'm currently working on the anti-aliasing problem with double-screen games. I need to rewrite a part of the generator but it will have no impact on the binary files so old generated games will remain compatible.
That is great news! Really looking forward to that update.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:43 pm
by FPGA64
Is there a way to have independent controls on the Dual Screen Mario Bros Game. I had it as a child and each side had an independent Up down for the character. On the current version up/ down moves both brothers which makes the game much harder if not impossible as it was designed so that each brothers can be moved independently
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:35 pm
by Pierco
Yes, it is possible but I need to add more buttons on the FPGA side so we can map them in the generator. Currently only have left/down/up/right/A/B/Jump. I will open a GitHub issue about it.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:50 pm
by Ashfall
See the post by MMarino4 in this Reddit thread for information about updated more complete background artwork.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/ ... b_artwork/
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:06 pm
by jca
Thanks for the update, moving the Loading of BIN to the top row is a really nice touch.
I renamed the games sudirectory updated MISTer, started the new core, loaded a BIN and ... the gremlins came back: black screen.
This time I went directly to what fixed the 1st time: I started the very old core, got a colorful messed up screen, started the new core, loaded a BIN and I got the display back.
I will delete all config files related to this core (may be something dating from the prehistoric core is making trouble with the config). I will see what happens on the next release.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:57 pm
by Bunker
lamarax wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:53 pm
If anybody's looking for the missing SM510 games, search for "
Game & Watch MiSTer FPGA" in the archive
both packs only provide 15 out of 18 between them unfortunately.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:07 pm
by lamarax
Bunker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:57 pm
both packs only provide 15 out of 18 between them unfortunately.
I wasn't able to convert
Rain Shower unfortunately; the .svg's included in the MAME romset came out blank in the tool.
As for the other two omitted, those use a weird display format, sorry
The core is only going to improve from now on, so I guess we'll have to redo the conversions anyway
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:26 pm
by Bunker
lamarax wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:07 pm
Bunker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:57 pm
both packs only provide 15 out of 18 between them unfortunately.
I wasn't able to convert
Rain Shower unfortunately; the .svg's included in the MAME romset came out blank in the tool.
As for the other two omitted, those use a weird display format, sorry
The core is only going to improve from now on, so I guess we'll have to redo the conversions anyway
didnt realise this was your stuff, thanks for the ones you have done!
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:56 pm
by Ashfall
lamarax wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:07 pm
Bunker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:57 pm
both packs only provide 15 out of 18 between them unfortunately.
I wasn't able to convert
Rain Shower unfortunately; the .svg's included in the MAME romset came out blank in the tool.
As for the other two omitted, those use a weird display format, sorry
The core is only going to improve from now on, so I guess we'll have to redo the conversions anyway
The Rainshower svg has the IDs reversed for the two layers. Open in notepad++ and find id=layer1 and id=layer2 and change them to the opposite.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:24 pm
by lamarax
Ashfall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:56 pm
The Rainshower svg has the IDs reversed for the two layers. Open in notepad++ and find id=layer1 and id=layer2 and change them to the opposite.
Great find, thank you
As for the anti-aliasing bug with dual screen games, I suggest using:
...in the .ini, and
Interpolation (medium) as a filter for now.
Re: Game & Watch Core
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:50 pm
by netbeui
Does Manhole work for anyone? All other games work for me but Manhole won't start for some reason. It loads the bin file and I see all the graphics but when I press the buttons on my controller the game won't start. Just wondering if I'm the only one with this problem
