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Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:16 pm
by folderwin

Previously, the games were running, but after the update, he started reading all the games as CDs with music. When renaming boot.rom to boot.bin is just a black screen.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:06 am
by aberu

If you are using the latest unstable release of the Saturn core, did you make sure to also use the latest unstable build of the Main mister binary?

There were changes to both today to make CHD loading also work. You have to have both updated if you are using the bleeding edge unstable release of the Saturn core.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:00 am
by neogeo81

you need boot.rom

and saturn is in main now. it will be downloaded with update_all


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:16 pm
by coderkind

I don't think the boot.rom is part of update_all yet; the core was asking for a bios when I tried the official launch version just now.

Also, a lot of games weren't booting for me. Only game that launched was Salamander Deluxe Pack, but on a CRT it was skewed over to the left side of the screen.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 1:32 pm
by neogeo81
coderkind wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:16 pm

I don't think the boot.rom is part of update_all yet; the core was asking for a bios when I tried the official launch version just now.

Also, a lot of games weren't booting for me. Only game that launched was Salamander Deluxe Pack, but on a CRT it was skewed over to the left side of the screen.

that is not what i said. you need a bios named boot.rom in the games/saturn folder for it to work.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:53 pm
by KOLWE-X

Even with boot.rom I can't load any game :cry:


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:20 pm
by Akuma
aberu wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:06 am

If you are using the latest unstable release of the Saturn core, did you make sure to also use the latest unstable build of the Main mister binary?

There were changes to both today to make CHD loading also work. You have to have both updated if you are using the bleeding edge unstable release of the Saturn core.

Can someone point me in a direction to get those binaries for people that do not use discord ?


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:50 pm
by dyne
KOLWE-X wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:53 pm

Even with boot.rom I can't load any game :cry:

I put a bios copy into every game folder and have only had an issue launching 1 game out of about 20 I tried this morning. That being Shinobi Legions. I was actually surprised I didn't have any issue with the translation patch games I had.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:16 pm
by _javi_
coderkind wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:16 pm

I don't think the boot.rom is part of update_all yet; the core was asking for a bios when I tried the official launch version just now.

Also, a lot of games weren't booting for me. Only game that launched was Salamander Deluxe Pack, but on a CRT it was skewed over to the left side of the screen.

Yes, it had been skewed to the left for many revisions.. i hope it is fixed in future releases.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:18 am
by ItalianGrandma
dyne wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:50 pm
KOLWE-X wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:53 pm

Even with boot.rom I can't load any game :cry:

I put a bios copy into every game folder and have only had an issue launching 1 game out of about 20 I tried this morning. That being Shinobi Legions. I was actually surprised I didn't have any issue with the translation patch games I had.

As I learned yesterday, Shinobi Legions works. You just have to disable controller 2.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:30 am
by Stupid Dufus
Akuma wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:20 pm

Can someone point me in a direction to get those binaries for people that do not use discord ?

https://github.com/MiSTer-unstable-nigh ... 011_10cf31


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:28 am
by kerunaru

In my case, it always says the drive door is open and it doesn't load anything :(


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:04 am
by JakubH
ItalianGrandma wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:18 am
dyne wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:50 pm
KOLWE-X wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:53 pm

Even with boot.rom I can't load any game :cry:

I put a bios copy into every game folder and have only had an issue launching 1 game out of about 20 I tried this morning. That being Shinobi Legions. I was actually surprised I didn't have any issue with the translation patch games I had.

As I learned yesterday, Shinobi Legions works. You just have to disable controller 2.

Yes, correct. It's bug in the game.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:11 pm
by KOLWE-X

Nope, I tried everything. Nothing loads. The core is broken as hell. Don't know why some can play and others not. At this status the Core far beyond BETA. Sorry, but for me it's crap at this state. :evil:


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:51 pm
by neogeo81
KOLWE-X wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:11 pm

Nope, I tried everything. Nothing loads. The core is broken as hell. Don't know why some can play and others not. At this status the Core far beyond BETA. Sorry, but for me it's crap at this state. :evil:

No true, it must be your settings as every game i throw at it works.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:54 pm
by RascalUK

It's going to depend on what bios you have as your boot.rom. Mine generally works on most things, but occasionally I am having to use a different one for certain stuff. I am only really trying Japanese versions of games atm however.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:19 pm
by Retro-Nerd
neogeo81 wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:51 pm

No true, it must be your settings as every game i throw at it works.

He has the Antonio Villena 4C ram and refuses to try a standard 2-chip variant.

edit:
@kolwe-x

You obviously sorted it out. Yes, it was the RAM. Have fun. :D


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:59 pm
by neogeo81
Retro-Nerd wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:19 pm
neogeo81 wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:51 pm

No true, it must be your settings as every game i throw at it works.

He has the Antonio Villena 4C ram and refuses to try a standard 2-chip variant.

@kolwe-x

You obviously sorted it out. Have fun. :D

Oh ok so he is acting ignorant. The developer said those rams would no work properly because of bandwidth.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:00 pm
by neogeo81
KOLWE-X wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:11 pm

Nope, I tried everything. Nothing loads. The core is broken as hell. Don't know why some can play and others not. At this status the Core far beyond BETA. Sorry, but for me it's crap at this state. :evil:

So i just read you have the 4C ram stick. Listen to the people. The ram has issues with the core. It is not the core it is the ram.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:27 am
by KOLWE-X

I apologise for my comments. Yes, it was the 4C Ram. Didn't know that one was in my MiSTer build. Sorry my mistake. I've tested it with the 2C Ram and now it works :)


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:45 pm
by Najimaru
ItalianGrandma wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:18 am
dyne wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:50 pm
KOLWE-X wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:53 pm

Even with boot.rom I can't load any game :cry:

I put a bios copy into every game folder and have only had an issue launching 1 game out of about 20 I tried this morning. That being Shinobi Legions. I was actually surprised I didn't have any issue with the translation patch games I had.

As I learned yesterday, Shinobi Legions works. You just have to disable controller 2.

Thank you!


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:05 am
by offset

Check that your Region setting matches the game also. For instance, I couldn't get DonPachi (Japan) working until I changed my Region to Japan in the OSD menu and reset the core.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:40 am
by metalfacemark
kerunaru wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:28 am

In my case, it always says the drive door is open and it doesn't load anything :(

I have a lot of files that i downloaded where it says that - try a different rom, i downloaded off archive org the entire japanese romset and none of them work with the core, however if i download some of the games from a different source, they all work.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:08 pm
by insanityprawnboy

I put update all, the Saturn core is now included on my list. I then put a rom on my sd card in the Games / Saturn folder (Space Harrier), and went to load it, but it doesn't work.

Anything I'm missing?


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:15 pm
by rhester72

What does "it doesn't work" mean? What format are the games in? Do you have a proper BIOS listed as boot.rom?


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:19 pm
by insanityprawnboy
rhester72 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:15 pm

What does "it doesn't work" mean? What format are the games in? Do you have a proper BIOS listed as boot.rom?

I'm fairly clueless at this stuff. It's like Chinese to me trying to understand it, hence I waited for the update all rather than try to do anything before.

It's a CD-Rom file. I'm sure I got those types of file to work with the PSX. It then showed up when I went to load it, but nothing happened when I clicked on it to load.

I just updated all. Where do I find a bios and where do I put it?


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:21 pm
by rhester72

What's the extension of the file?

I can't point you specifically at a BIOS, but downloading a file with a md5sum of 3240872c70984b6cbfda1586cab68dbe (Google is your friend) and putting it in games\Saturn named boot.rom will likely get you further.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:26 pm
by insanityprawnboy
rhester72 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:21 pm

What's the extension of the file?

I can't point you specifically at a BIOS, but downloading a file with a md5sum of 3240872c70984b6cbfda1586cab68dbe (Google is your friend) and putting it in games\Saturn named boot.rom will likely get you further.

I googled "md5sum of 3240872c70984b6cbfda1586cab68dbe", but I don't know what I'm looking for. This stuff always completely loses me.


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:36 pm
by rhester72

Sounds like you may want to enlist a local techie to get you through things - all you need to Google for is the 324...dbe part (no quotes or anything), but there's a number of things you're likely going to need to tweak and adjust that you may not be comfortable with. MiSTer is many things, plug-and-play isn't one. =)


Re: Saturn Core Does Not Launch Games

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:14 pm
by insanityprawnboy
rhester72 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:36 pm

Sounds like you may want to enlist a local techie to get you through things - all you need to Google for is the 324...dbe part (no quotes or anything), but there's a number of things you're likely going to need to tweak and adjust that you may not be comfortable with. MiSTer is many things, plug-and-play isn't one. =)

Fortunately, my best mate falls into the category of techie, so I've got it running now. Thanks for your pointers, I ran what you said by him.